
“I’m not a math person.” It sounds like a fact about wiring, the way eye color is a fact. Plenty of grown adults say it with a shrug, and plenty of children absorb it before they finish primary school. A belief that settled is worth putting on trial, because the science meant to back it does the opposite. The brain that stumbles over a number today is not the fixed brain a child is stuck with for life.
FROM THE VIDEO
Key moments from the Math Therapy conversation with sound engineer Sue Besson and host Vanessa Vakharia:
- 16:08The exact moment math clicked: her teacher swapped the worksheet for a real problem Sue already understood, then named the math inside it.
- 20:53What actually turned her around was not a program. It was a teacher saying “I believe in you” and spending five extra minutes.
- 42:52Her reply to anyone who says they are not a math person: “I’m the proof. Get off the paper so everyone learns.”
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She was put in the bottom math set and told she was hopeless. One teacher changed the delivery, not the child. She passed, then ran her own sound company for 20 years.
The Verdict That Comes Before the Child Gets a Chance
Sue Besson was sorted early. In her London school she landed in what the staff called group four, the bottom set, the group the teachers had already given up on. A supply teacher kept them in their seats. Nobody taught them much. The message underneath was steady and constant: there is nothing here for you, so stay until you are old enough to leave. Loud and cheeky on the surface, frightened underneath, she decided the thing every child in that seat decides. Her brain was not built for this. Math belonged to “the posh kids,” not to her. She was, in her own words, not a math person. Done. End of conversation.
Here is what that verdict missed. A capable child who struggles is not a contradiction; it is the ordinary picture. When the International Dyslexia Association rewrote its definition in 2025, it dropped the old rule that a struggle had to be paired with a low IQ score to count. Wrestling with a school subject says almost nothing about how bright a child is. The two were never the same wiring. Calling a stuck child lazy only means the effort has not yet met the right method. And a system that sorts children into “hopeless” at eleven stops looking for that method at all. Years later, when one teacher wanted to enter Sue for the exam, the head of the math department laughed out loud at the idea. She passed anyway.
The head of the math department laughed at the idea she would pass; she passed anyway, and built a twenty-year career on the subject she was told was useless.
Laura Lurns · Learning Success expert

The Fix Was Never More Numbers. It Was a Different Doorway.
Then a new teacher walked into that bottom-set class. She was young, in her first-ever teaching job, and her name was Jo Boaler, years before Stanford, before she became one of the most cited researchers in math education. One day Sue asked how a person is even supposed to learn fractions. Instead of pointing back at the page, Boaler handed her a real situation Sue already understood, something she could split and share without thinking. Sue solved it in seconds. Then Boaler said two words that rearranged everything: “That’s fractions.” The symbols on the page had a meaning after all, and the meaning was something Sue had known all along. Math had always felt to her “like a foreign language completely.” Someone had finally translated it.
That doorway has a name in the research: start with the concrete thing a child sees and handles, then connect it to the abstract symbol, not the other way round. The deeper reassurance sits underneath it. Brain-imaging studies of children who struggle show that, with the right kind of practice, the number and reading pathways they were told they lacked grow stronger and take shape; the brain is not a fixed object. Point a child at number sense built from real quantities rather than memorized procedures, and the wall of “not for me” often turns out to be “never shown to me.” None of this is a promise of overnight change. It is a direction, and the direction is the opposite of hopeless.
Key takeaways
- Not a math person is a story: Children absorb the belief early, and a belief is changeable.
- Bright and struggling belong together: The IDA's 2025 definition decoupled learning struggles from IQ entirely.
- Start concrete, then name it: Real quantities a child handles turn abstract symbols into something obvious.
What Actually Rewrote the Story
Ask Sue what changed her life and she does not name a curriculum. She names two sentences: “I believe in you,” and the extra five minutes a teacher spent instead of writing her off. That combination, belief said out loud, then backed by time, pulled a checked-out kid back into the room where learning was possible. “I’m bad at math” had been a prediction she was making about her own future, and every small win quietly rewrote it. Once she trusted that she had learned one hard thing, she began to suspect she had it in her to learn anything.
The stakes were not abstract. Sue needed those math and English passes to get into a sound-engineering course, the course that led to running her own audio company across Southeast Asia for two decades. The subject she had been told was useless turned out to be the gate to the life she wanted. You do not need a teaching credential to do what Jo Boaler did in that classroom. The move is small enough to start tonight:
- Find the math your child already does without fear, sharing a pizza, counting change, keeping score, and name the math inside it (“that’s division”).
- Say the belief out loud and specifically: “I have watched you figure hard things out. This is one more of them.”
- Give five unhurried minutes, not a lecture. Presence is the part a checked-out child actually notices.
Small, specific, repeated. That is how a fixed story starts to move, and it is the same direction the brain science points.
Math had always felt to Sue like a foreign language, until one teacher stopped pointing at the page and finally translated it.
Laura Lurns · Learning Success expert
You want your child to leave school believing the door to any subject is open to them, not quietly closed by a placement decision made when they were ten. The villain here is not a teacher having a hard day; it is a system built to sort children into “able” and “hopeless” and then teach to the sort. Sue’s story turns on one adult who refused to read her as a verdict. You are positioned to be that adult every day, because nobody will ever advocate for your child the way you will.
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